Dear People, There are a large number of VAX/VMS sites that wish to link to Usenet. I am head of a working group within the VAX SIG of DECUS that is addressing this need. The requisite software exists in the form of PMDF; with that we can talk to BSD 4.3 sites and to each other. We can also build some high-bandwidth "backbones" by exploiting presently-unused (e.g. nighttime) capacity on wide-area VMS-to-VMS DECnet links. (PMDF can use DECnet links as well.) (Before you recoil in horror at the thought of a hundred or a thousand VMS sites jumping on the net and breaking the netnews distribution backbone, let me mention that there's no readily available software for handling netnews on VMS. Such software is being written, but the overwhelming consensus at the last working group meeting was "we don't want to read, forward, or respond to all that traffic, just the VAX-related issues". Of course this might change.) Naturally we want to avoid the confusion caused by bang-style route-oriented addresses; the right thing to do is to become a registered Internet domain (or zone?) or to join an existing domain. (Presumably, a system that can establish a link to an existing, cooperative Internet node need only become a part of that node's domain, or subdomain, or park.) Do you have any information that would help? Perhaps a start would be to send me whatever you would send me if I was a lone Unix site wishing to join the UUCP zone, plus whatever you would send me if I was a company big enough to think about establishing my own xxx.com domain (it is not inconceivable that DECUS might be able to act as the responsible authority for decus.org , or some such). Thank you in advance... From crash!bigbang!scubed!seismo!cbosgd!stargate!mark Mon Jun 15 23:36:15 1987 Received: by crash.CTS.COM (5.54/UUCP-Project/rel-1.0/09-14-86) id AA01348; Mon, 15 Jun 87 23:19:32 PDT Reply-To: crash!bigbang!scubed!seismo!cbosgd!stargate!mark Received: by bigbang.UUCP (4.12/UUCP-Project/rel-1.0/11-09-86) id AA01669; Mon, 15 Jun 87 23:03:33 pdt Received: by SCUBED.ARPA (4.12/5.20b) id AA18722; Mon, 15 Jun 87 22:09:59 pdt Received: from cbosgd.UUCP by seismo.CSS.GOV (5.54/1.14) with UUCP id AA21852; Tue, 16 Jun 87 01:02:42 EDT Received: by cbosgd.MIS.OH.ATT.COM (smail2.1) id AA09411; 14 Jun 87 17:00:02 EDT (Sun) Received: by stargate.COM (smail2.3) id AA01398; 14 Jun 87 16:15:48 EDT (Sun) Ppath: pnet01!jeh To: crash!pnet01!jeh@scubed:bigbang Subject: Re: Uucp project inquiry Date: 14 Jun 87 16:15:40 EDT (Sun) From: crash!stargate.COM!mark Message-Id: <8706141615.AA01392@stargate.COM> Hi. There are already lots of VMS sites on Usenet, generally by using a UNIX emulator such as Eunice. The hardest part is getting UUCP running, but any email mechanism can be used in theory. I'm not sure who "we" (wanting to register a domain) is. Domains are set up on an organizational level, so each organization (company, university, government agency, etc) should register their own separate domain. We are authorized to register domains reachable with UUCP; if you're using PMDF you might want to consider CSNET, which is geared toward that protocol. If you can appear to be UUCP (e.g. reachable with bangs) through some gateway that agrees to pass all your traffic (crash might be overwhelmed if you're talking about much traffic) we can do the registrations. If your members are very small, it is possible to set up "park" membership (I gather you're already familiar with this through Bill) for $50/year, but the normal organizational rate for the UUCP Zone is $150/year, which I'd guess any organization with a VAX can afford. Domains describe organizations. Even if your organization has more than one machine, or is on more than one network, you can use the same domain name for all machines owned by the organization. (We don't consider DECUS an organization in this sense, as it doesn't own its members machines.) I'll send the UUCP Zone information packet and Stargate announcements separately. Mark