INFO-VAX Wed, 30 Apr 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 241 Contents: Re: Boot Camp Update Re: Boot Camp Update Re: Boot Camp Update Re: Boot Camp Update Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities DECdts getting time from NTP Re: DECdts getting time from NTP Encompass - Endeavour Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: ES45 says power supply failed Re: Odd backup corruption Re: Odd backup corruption Re: Odd backup corruption RMS record much longer that format attribute proclaims. Re: ssh hostkey file location VMS 30th anniversary 'Oldest VMS system' contest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Apr 2008 08:23:45 -0500 From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) Subject: Re: Boot Camp Update Message-ID: In article <69535aba-93aa-4307-afae-d6e5898284fe@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Sue writes: > > Sweden 24 I'm curious about this; why so many from Sweden ? Does Sweden have a large base of VMS systems ? Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980's technology to a 21st century world ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 09:09:46 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Boot Camp Update Message-ID: <+gMOpZCoFyP$@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) writes: > In article <69535aba-93aa-4307-afae-d6e5898284fe@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Sue writes: >> >> Sweden 24 > > I'm curious about this; why so many from Sweden ? > > Does Sweden have a large base of VMS systems ? Those Sweeds are smart folks and the dollar is low. Good reason to be using VMS and come over here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:14:33 GMT From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?= Subject: Re: Boot Camp Update Message-ID: Simon Clubley wrote: > In article <69535aba-93aa-4307-afae-d6e5898284fe@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Sue writes: >> Sweden 24 > > I'm curious about this; why so many from Sweden ? > > Does Sweden have a large base of VMS systems ? > > Simon. > Yes, many larger companies here has large VMS installations. IKEA, Nasdaq/OM (stock systems), car mgfs, Ericsson, some steel companies. And we are clever folks also... :-) Jan-Erik. (Staring up a larger VMS assignment as we speek...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: Boot Camp Update Message-ID: and they have the magnificent Elk :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:41:51 -0700 (PDT) From: etmsreec@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Message-ID: <62731d3e-8e02-4252-a853-cc0070a644a8@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On 28 Apr, 15:21, Steve Pisani wrote: > Hi, > > I'm relatively new to this environment, so I'm hoping to get some info > from this forum. > > On one side I have an application running on OpenVMS written in DEC- > BASIC which maintains RMS files. > On the other side I have a relational DB (Cache from InterSystems) > > The relational DB allows me to extract/update information into it via > a number of methods, namely, via ODBC calls, or programs written in C, > C++, Java, .NET... and other technologies. > > The task is to modify the DEC-BASIC information such that I can send > data to the relational Database. Whilst I know the capabilities > afforded to me by the rdbms side, I do not knwo what capabilities DEC- > BASIC has. > > so - > > 1/ Does DEC-BASIC have commands that allow me to make ODBC calls ? If > so - what do I need to set this up? > 2/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a C++ program ? If so - does this need > to be "linked" in with the BASIC object. > 3/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a Java program ? > > Any feedback appreciated.. > > Thanks > > Steve Hiya, Welcome to the environment Steve. I've a feeling that CONNX may be able to help with the job that you want to do almost out of the box. I've not used it, but a number of people I've spoken to have. I think their website's www.connx-net.com Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Message-ID: <71e002e9-a930-45b9-973a-4d8a7968ab83@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> On Apr 30, 4:41=A0am, etmsr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > On 28 Apr, 15:21, Steve Pisani wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm relatively new to this environment, so I'm hoping to get some info > > from this forum. > > > On one side I have an application running on OpenVMS written in DEC- > > BASIC which maintains RMS files. > > On the other side I have a relational DB (Cache from InterSystems) > > > The relational DB allows me to extract/update information into it via > > a number of methods, namely, via ODBC calls, or programs written in C, > > C++, Java, .NET... and other technologies. > > > The task is to modify the DEC-BASIC information such that I can send > > data to the relational Database. Whilst I know the capabilities > > afforded to me by the rdbms side, I do not knwo what capabilities DEC- > > BASIC has. > > > so - > > > 1/ Does DEC-BASIC have commands that allow me to make ODBC calls ? If > > so - what do I need to set this up? > > 2/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a C++ program ? If so - does this need > > to be "linked" in with the BASIC object. > > 3/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a Java program ? > > > Any feedback appreciated.. > > > Thanks > > > Steve > > Hiya, > > Welcome to the environment Steve. > > I've a feeling that CONNX may be able to help with the job that you > want to do almost out of the box. =A0I've not used it, but a number of > people I've spoken to have. > I think their website'swww.connx-net.com > > Steve- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Or alternatively, http://www.connx.com/products/open_vms.asp http://www.connx.com/products/rms.html http://www.attunity.com/rms_data_access Neil Rieck Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/links/cool_openvms.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "winston19842005@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Message-ID: On Apr 30, 6:27 am, Neil Rieck wrote: > On Apr 30, 4:41 am, etmsr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > > > > On 28 Apr, 15:21, Steve Pisani wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm relatively new to this environment, so I'm hoping to get some info > > > from this forum. > > > > On one side I have an application running on OpenVMS written in DEC- > > > BASIC which maintains RMS files. > > > On the other side I have a relational DB (Cache from InterSystems) > > > > The relational DB allows me to extract/update information into it via > > > a number of methods, namely, via ODBC calls, or programs written in C, > > > C++, Java, .NET... and other technologies. > > > > The task is to modify the DEC-BASIC information such that I can send > > > data to the relational Database. Whilst I know the capabilities > > > afforded to me by the rdbms side, I do not knwo what capabilities DEC- > > > BASIC has. > > > > so - > > > > 1/ Does DEC-BASIC have commands that allow me to make ODBC calls ? If > > > so - what do I need to set this up? > > > 2/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a C++ program ? If so - does this need > > > to be "linked" in with the BASIC object. > > > 3/ Can a DEC-BASIC program call a Java program ? > > > > Any feedback appreciated.. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > > Hiya, > > > Welcome to the environment Steve. > > > I've a feeling that CONNX may be able to help with the job that you > > want to do almost out of the box. I've not used it, but a number of > > people I've spoken to have. > > I think their website'swww.connx-net.com > > > Steve- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Or alternatively, > > http://www.connx.com/products/open_vms.asphttp://www.connx.com/products/rms.html > > http://www.attunity.com/rms_data_access > Our team was to investigate and evaluate Connx as a reporting solution for GTE Wireless (not yet Verizon). It was literally amazing. It was much more than we needed, though, and there were voices from above (no, not a heavenly choir of angels, but whispers of middle management) basically telling us "Choose IQ, choose IQ". Not sure if you are familiar with IQ, the ad-hoc reporting tool. It was much less powerful. Connx brought the data to your desktop, in many different forms. IQ left it on VMS where you could see it in a terminal window as nothing but characters or reports... ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 09:01:15 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: DEC-BASIC Capablities Message-ID: In article <48166bae$0$90275$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= writes: > > The ODBC API is a classic C API. > > Simple extract from sql.h: > > ... > typedef short SWORD; > ... > typedef SWORD SQLSMALLINT; > ... > typedef SQLSMALLINT SQLRETURN; > ... > typedef void* SQLHANDLE; > ... > typedef SQLHANDLE SQLHENV; > ... > SQLRETURN SQL_API SQLAllocEnv(SQLHENV*); > ... Nothing there that I couldn't do in every native language I've used on VMS. I haven't used BASIC, but I think all the inter-language hooks are in the compiler like I'm used to in Fortran (changing passing techniques and such). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:59:04 +0100 From: Anton Shterenlikht Subject: DECdts getting time from NTP Message-ID: <20080430115904.GA44140@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> I'm trying to set up my DECdts server to acquire time from an NTP server, running on a unix box on the local net. I followed Appendix C.1 from DECdts Management manual (2005, version 2.0). I cannot find any of the 4 files mentioned in the manual, in sys$examples: dtss$provider_ntp.c dtss$provider_ntp.exe run_ntp_tp.com start_detached_ntp_tp.com I searched with DIRECTORY [*...]*ntp* Could it be that I didn't install these files during VMS installation? Could it be something to do with me using Educational license? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:07:24 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: DECdts getting time from NTP Message-ID: <94f18903-c7d4-4e01-ac08-b114517854b2@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com> They are not on my systems either but see SMS updated versions at http://antinode.org/dec/sw/dtss_ntp.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: Encompass - Endeavour Message-ID: Today's the last day to vote on the great HP user group snogfest. To be honest I don't have strong feelings either way though I tend slightly against for the reason below; what I really wanted a vote on back in the day was dumping the DECUS name in favor of Encompass, but the members were not given that option at the time. The one main thing that Encompass still works with that I really like is the Boot Camp (I just wish I could go). Some of the webinars have been useful too, as is access to the DECUS library, when it works, and Notes archives. I am NOT an HP aficionado, or an HP customer, or an HP vendor... I don't use or sell any HP products other than VMS systems, and HP printers to go with those systems. On the PC side of things we go with whatever wintel POC vendor the customer requires, sometimes HP, often not. I am an OpenVMS aficionado, customer, vendor, reseller, manager, programmer, etc. And I can't help but think that VMS and its associated hardware and apps will be more marginalized in the new uber- organization than it was in Encompass (relative to DECUS, where DEC's influence at the time was certainly not doing VMS huge favors either). If anyone would care to share their thoughts, or their vote, in the time remaining, it would be interesting to hear your reasoning on this, assuming anyone actually cares. Rich ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:14:58 +0000 (UTC) From: gartmann@nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: In article <48177b95$1@flight>, Malcolm Dunnett writes: [...] >It seems odd to me that all three power supplies would be failed, I even >swapped in a power supply from another ES45 I got at the same time, same >error. > >Do I really have five power supplies that are all adequate to run the >OCP but not the system or is this a bogus error that may be caused by a >loose cable or failed door interlock (or something of that ilk?) Not that I have a solution, but here we have a very similar situation: A DS25 started to report "%SMHANDLER-W-RFF, redundant fan failure detected". So we had a look at the two huge fans, realized that one seemed to be a bit weak and removed this one (they are hot swapable), reseated it and the message disappeared. Two days later it reappeared. So we did a shutdown and had a look at the console. Here the machine reported the PCI fan as "bad". Ok, we replaced this one. But the error remained. We replaced the huge fans at the back, no luck either. We checked the plugs and cables of the fans, everything is all right. But suddenly the error message went away again. I am sure it will come back, but the question is: what is wrong? Could it be some dead battery? Regards, Christoph Gartmann -- Max-Planck-Institut fuer Phone : +49-761-5108-464 Fax: -452 Immunbiologie Postfach 1169 Internet: gartmann@immunbio dot mpg dot de D-79011 Freiburg, Germany http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:45:27 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: How many CPUs and how much memory do you have? may have an answer for you... (Note to malcolm - we are selling these too - I never heard from you) -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote in message news:48177b95$1@flight... >I have just gotten a used ES45 that I'm having a problem powering up. > > When I plug the system in the first green light comes on for all three > power supplies and the OCP says "System is down". When I hit the power > button the fans don't spin up and I get a "PS0 Failed" on the OCP. If I > unplug PS0 the same thing happens, but it says "PS1 Failed", ditto for > PS2. If I remove the CPU door I can see a green led lit up on each CPU. > > It seems odd to me that all three power supplies would be failed, I even > swapped in a power supply from another ES45 I got at the same time, same > error. > > Do I really have five power supplies that are all adequate to run the OCP > but not the system or is this a bogus error that may be caused by a loose > cable or failed door interlock (or something of that ilk?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:55:59 -0400 From: Pete Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:48:44 -0700, Malcolm Dunnett wrote: >I have just gotten a used ES45 that I'm having a problem powering up. > >When I plug the system in the first green light comes on for all three >power supplies and the OCP says "System is down". When I hit the power >button the fans don't spin up and I get a "PS0 Failed" on the OCP. If I >unplug PS0 the same thing happens, but it says "PS1 Failed", ditto for >PS2. If I remove the CPU door I can see a green led lit up on each CPU. > >It seems odd to me that all three power supplies would be failed, I even >swapped in a power supply from another ES45 I got at the same time, same >error. > >Do I really have five power supplies that are all adequate to run the >OCP but not the system or is this a bogus error that may be caused by a >loose cable or failed door interlock (or something of that ilk?) Sounds like they are plugged into 110. Check and see what the ES45 needs for power. Pete ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:20:45 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: Pete wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:48:44 -0700, Malcolm Dunnett > wrote: > >> I have just gotten a used ES45 that I'm having a problem powering up. >> >> When I plug the system in the first green light comes on for all three >> power supplies and the OCP says "System is down". When I hit the power >> button the fans don't spin up and I get a "PS0 Failed" on the OCP. If I >> unplug PS0 the same thing happens, but it says "PS1 Failed", ditto for >> PS2. If I remove the CPU door I can see a green led lit up on each CPU. >> >> It seems odd to me that all three power supplies would be failed, I even >> swapped in a power supply from another ES45 I got at the same time, same >> error. >> >> Do I really have five power supplies that are all adequate to run the >> OCP but not the system or is this a bogus error that may be caused by a >> loose cable or failed door interlock (or something of that ilk?) > > Sounds like they are plugged into 110. Check and see what the ES45 > needs for power. > > Pete Note that the power required by these boxes, and thus the number of power supplies, depends on things like the number of CPUs installed. Somewhere, there's a document with the configuration rules which you can use to determine the minimum number of power supplies required. Of course it's possible that you bought a broken box! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:37:59 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: If you were "lucky" enough to buy the Model 1B or 2B 3B etc then YOU have to have 240V circuits to prvide for these. There is a conversion kit for them to bring them to a 120V (turns a 2B into a 2) It consists of the power backplane and 1+x+x power supplies The model 2 has been a lot more popular purely because so many computer rooms now have 120V circuits (yes I know most Ex-Vax houses have 3 phase and 240V circuits left over from the dark ages) -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote in message news:48177b95$1@flight... >I have just gotten a used ES45 that I'm having a problem powering up. > > When I plug the system in the first green light comes on for all three > power supplies and the OCP says "System is down". When I hit the power > button the fans don't spin up and I get a "PS0 Failed" on the OCP. If I > unplug PS0 the same thing happens, but it says "PS1 Failed", ditto for > PS2. If I remove the CPU door I can see a green led lit up on each CPU. > > It seems odd to me that all three power supplies would be failed, I even > swapped in a power supply from another ES45 I got at the same time, same > error. > > Do I really have five power supplies that are all adequate to run the OCP > but not the system or is this a bogus error that may be caused by a loose > cable or failed door interlock (or something of that ilk?) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:29:53 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: <48188261$1@flight> David Turner, Island Computers wrote: > How many CPUs and how much memory do you have? > > may have an answer for you... > > (Note to malcolm - we are selling these too - I never heard from you) > Four CPUs and 16GB memory, though I tried removing a couple of CPUs and it didn't make any difference. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:56:17 -0700 From: Malcolm Dunnett Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: <481896A1.1000906@spammers.are.scum> David Turner, Island Computers wrote: > If you were "lucky" enough to buy the Model 1B or 2B 3B etc then YOU have to > have 240V circuits to prvide for these. I think I have a "B" model. I noticed the power supplies aren't the same as in the ES40 (the connector is slightly different). I bought these as part of a lot consisting of two ES45s and two ES40's "for parts" on Ebay. On the plus side, the price was really good, on the minus side I don't know what's working and what isn't - but I'm certainly not feeding them 240V, so that may be the problem (the OCP and the RMC still work even if you feed them 120V). > There is a conversion kit for them to bring them to a 120V (turns a 2B into > a 2) > > It consists of the power backplane and 1+x+x power supplies > Would that by any chance be the same as the backplane and power supplies in an ES40? I have several of those and could cannibalize a backplane and power supplies from one of them. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:44:49 -0400 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: ES45 says power supply failed Message-ID: <2j1Sj.65937$Q52.35914@bignews9.bellsouth.net> Yes The P/Supplies and backplane are the same on the ES40 I have never actually compared them - but the ES45 Model 2 uses the ES40 Model 2 Power supplies There may be a rev difference though - say a-02 compared to 03 which could have some ramifications if not correctly checked DT -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International: 001 706 993 1787 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= "Malcolm Dunnett" wrote in message news:481896A1.1000906@spammers.are.scum... > David Turner, Island Computers wrote: >> If you were "lucky" enough to buy the Model 1B or 2B 3B etc then YOU have >> to have 240V circuits to prvide for these. > > I think I have a "B" model. I noticed the power supplies aren't the same > as in the ES40 (the connector is slightly different). > > I bought these as part of a lot consisting of two ES45s and two ES40's > "for parts" on Ebay. On the plus side, the price was really good, on the > minus side I don't know what's working and what isn't - but I'm certainly > not feeding them 240V, so that may be the problem (the OCP and the RMC > still work even if you feed them 120V). > >> There is a conversion kit for them to bring them to a 120V (turns a 2B >> into a 2) >> >> It consists of the power backplane and 1+x+x power supplies >> > > Would that by any chance be the same as the backplane and power supplies > in an ES40? I have several of those and could cannibalize a backplane and > power supplies from one of them. ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 08:50:11 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Odd backup corruption Message-ID: In article , Tom Wade writes: > > Has anyone seen anything like this ? No, but I could create it with symbols that "added" qualifiers to the BACKUP command. Are you sure you don't have any? ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 08:52:35 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Odd backup corruption Message-ID: In article , Tom Wade writes: > The file produced is the same size, and has the same RMS attributes > > File Organization: sequential > Record Format: variable > Record Attributes: carriage-return > Maximum Record Size: 0 > Longest Record: 153 > Blocks Allocated: 600, Default Extend Size: 0 > End-of-File VBN: 542, Offset: %X'008A' > File Monitoring: disabled > File Length Hint (Record Count): -1 (invalid) > File Length Hint (Data Byte Count): -1 (invalid) > Global Buffer Count: 0 > OBTW, what do analyse/rms and analyse/disk_struture say? ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 09:06:50 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Odd backup corruption Message-ID: <9c3pht2xIQjb@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , Tom Wade writes: > $ backup temp-input.ps temp-backup.ps > $ diff temp-input.ps temp-backup.ps What does backup/compare say? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:29 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: RMS record much longer that format attribute proclaims. Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004AA9CD8525743B_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This shows and output file with Record format: Stream_LF, maximum 255 bytes, longest 255 bytes but the DUMP/RECORD below shows Record number 120 (00000078), 7626 (1DCA) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01FB) a record much longer than that. Comments? $DIRE/FULL TEST.LOG; Directory DISK$TEST:[DEVL] TEST.LOG;11 File ID: (190302,83,0) Size: 86/90 Owner: [MIS,TEST] Created: 30-APR-2008 08:26:59.01 Revised: 30-APR-2008 08:27:01.22 (1) Expires: Backup: Effective: Recording: Accessed: Attributes: Modified: Linkcount: 1 File organization: Sequential Shelved state: Online Caching attribute: Writethrough File attributes: Allocation: 90, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0 No version limit Record format: Stream_LF, maximum 255 bytes, longest 255 bytes Record attributes: Carriage return carriage control RMS attributes: None Journaling enabled: None File protection: System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World: Access Cntrl List: None Client attributes: None Total of 1 file, 86/90 blocks. === [SNIP] Record number 119 (00000077), 9 (0009) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01F1) Record number 120 (00000078), 7626 (1DCA) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01FB) Record number 121 (00000079), 18 (0012) bytes, RFA(0017,0000,01C6) [SNIP] --=_alternative 004AA9CD8525743B_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
This shows and output file with

Record format:      Stream_LF, maximum 255 bytes, longest 255 bytes

but the DUMP/RECORD below shows

Record number 120 (00000078), 7626 (1DCA) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01FB)

a record much longer than that.

Comments?


$DIRE/FULL TEST.LOG;    

Directory DISK$TEST:[DEVL]

TEST.LOG;11                File ID:  (190302,83,0)        
Size:           86/90         Owner:    [MIS,TEST]
Created:    30-APR-2008 08:26:59.01
Revised:    30-APR-2008 08:27:01.22 (1)
Expires:    <None specified>
Backup:     <No backup recorded>
Effective:  <None specified>
Recording:  <None specified>
Accessed:   <None specified>
Attributes: <None specified>
Modified:   <None specified>
Linkcount:  1
File organization:  Sequential
Shelved state:      Online
Caching attribute:  Writethrough
File attributes:    Allocation: 90, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0
                    No version limit
Record format:      Stream_LF, maximum 255 bytes, longest 255 bytes
Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control
RMS attributes:     None
Journaling enabled: None
File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RE, World:
Access Cntrl List:  None
Client attributes:  None

Total of 1 file, 86/90 blocks.
===
[SNIP]
Record number 119 (00000077), 9 (0009) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01F1)
Record number 120 (00000078), 7626 (1DCA) bytes, RFA(0008,0000,01FB)
Record number 121 (00000079), 18 (0012) bytes, RFA(0017,0000,01C6)
[SNIP] --=_alternative 004AA9CD8525743B_=-- ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 2008 09:05:04 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: ssh hostkey file location Message-ID: In article <20080429083857.GA99498@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk>, Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > $ show logical sys$sysdevice > "SYS$SYSDEVICE" = "$1$DGA1:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > $ show logical sys$sysroot > "SYS$SYSROOT" = "$1$DGA1:[SYS1.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > = "SYS$COMMON:" > 1 "SYS$COMMON" = "$1$DGA1:[SYS1.SYSCOMMON.]" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) > $ sys$common sets up a rooted device. So for most purposes sys$common:[sys1.syscommon] acts like [000000] on a real disk. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Jordan Subject: VMS 30th anniversary 'Oldest VMS system' contest Message-ID: On April 22nd, HP supposedly selected the winner of an Itanium server based on the age of the oldest running system registered with them. I didn't expect to win with my VS3100-30 but I did get nudged early in April to validate the entry, which I did, so I know things were moving at the time. I haven't seen any announcement, and the 30th anniversary website doesn't look to have been updated. The contest validation page still tries to tell me I can validate my system as long as I do it before April 8th but doesn't have anything new either. Has there been an announcement? Did the selection take place? Who won, and what was the oldest system that registered? Thanks! Rich ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.241 ************************